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Commentary: Can cars really fix the Fulton Mall?

By Famous Whitewater

  • Oct 12 2011
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Update: The Save the Fulton Mall gto more dire today. Mayor Ashley Swearengin is now on record supporting two-way traffic on the mall. 

Original post: It occurs to me that I might be wrong about the Fulton Mall, that the time for being blase and aloof has passed. I’ve mostly abstained from the “open-to-the-mall-to-traffic” debate because it felt a bit useless. The city’s — and community’s— financial and mental efforts could better be spent elsewhere, so I thought.

I was “so over” the mall.

Then, last week the PBID Partners of Downtown Fresno endorsed recommendations for the mall that included opening it to traffic. My initial reaction was ... well, at least it’s something.

I’ll take that back now.

Forward movement isn’t the same as progress here.

Opening the mall to traffic may appease those like me, who want some action after all the talk, talk, talk. It’s also appealing to the “raze and rebuild crowd” because it’ll make this stretch of the city’s urban core all shiny and new, which Fresnans will love, because we’re raccoons like that. The PBID no doubt likes it because it will likely increase some property values.

But it’s going to cost us and I’m not talking dollars and cents.

Let’s backtrack. The Fulton Mall never had a chance. It was designed to be the crown jewel of a concentrated urban core, an eight-block pedestrian mall that would be a national model. It won the American Institute of Architects “Excellence in Community Architecture” award a National Design Excellence award from the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

And then it was abandoned. Just two years after the mall opened, the city gave the green light to Fashion Fair Mall and it was northward ho! The expansion never stopped. There’s no sense that it ever will. It’ll just keep moving to East and West. Think El Peseo. Think Fancher Creek.

Opening the mall to traffic won’t fix that.

But it will upset — if not completely destroy — one of the most authentic and interesting places in the entire city.

Which is what worries Kiel Famellos-Schmidt and the group behind the Save the Fulton Mall movement, which organized under the belief that the mall is a historic landmark and should be preserved as such— regardless of what the city thinks. “We saw the direction things were going,” Famellos-Schmidt says. So, they started a Facebook campaign to educate the community and rally support for the cause. The page is a must-click for anyone interested in the mall.

The group has also held mall cleanup projects and had a party at the clocktower. Look for another once once the Facebook page reaches 2,000 “likes.” Rademacher will be playing. 

Famellos-Schmidt understands the complexity of the situation and says the group is not trying to hinder revitalization. He’s been to the meetings, heard the costs and projections. He just doesn’t believe ripping up the mall is the way to do it.

"I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't believe it was the right thing."

So, maybe the Fulton Mall was a mistake in the first place. That’s certainly my father’s take on the matter. “Worst decision the city ever made,” he says, as if he’s been civic-minded his whole life.

Here’s the thing: Even if that’s the case, the idea of opening the mall back up to traffic smacks of reliving the past, of not learning from our mistakes. The mall was built as someone’s best idea to thwart suburbanism and the rise of the car culture. And here we are wanting to rip it up and tear out in the name of new urbanism — someone’s best idea at revitalization in the current car culture.

“That’s where you can see history repeating itself,” Famellos-Schmidt says.

It seems like, politically at least, it's the easy way out, and even for a cynic like me, that’s just not good enough.

10 Comment(s) for "Commentary: Can cars really fix the Fulton Mall?"

fresnoise's picture
fresnoise on 10-15-2011 @ 06:03:27

Raging Against The Mayor's Machinations: http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/10/14/2577202_p2/swearengin-proposes-2-way...


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Famous Whitewater on 10-14-2011 @ 10:00:03

jdeyoung,

Again. You can hardly blame the mall's failure on design alone. Do you know where every store is at Fashion Fair? They have 150 and seem to be doing fine.

The truth is, regardless of design, the Fulton Mall was never given a chance to succeed and at that, it's not as deserted as they'd have you believe (http://theanthroguys.com/2011/01/06/fulton-malls-perception-problem). Tearing up the mall is politically expedient.


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jessied44 on 10-14-2011 @ 09:48:04

The most important thing to remember is that once something is torn down, it is gone forever. Think the beautiful old courthouse that once crowned the square. The challenge is to renovate and preserve while multi-purposing the area. The biggest problem has always been where to put the cars if you were able to draw people to the downtown core. I'm old enough to remember the theaters, stores, and restaurants that were once there. Any plans for alteration have to come up with a way to make people want to be there. A good start would be easy mass transit and/or free parking.


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fresnoise on 10-13-2011 @ 09:54:53

The breezes of change have blown through the windmills of my mind, too.

I was first sympathetic to the tear-out-the-mall mentality because of my experiences as a gigging musician with playing on the Fulton Mall.

I played at the venue that was called The Fulton, 1243 Fulton Mall in the 90s and again some years later at the same location when it was called The Milano. At the Fulton we had a hard time finding the place because of the parking situation. I finally found a place to park the band van in the big empty lot behind the club only to find a parking ticket at the end of the show because I had parked in a no parking zone. Then, when it was The Milano, similar parking problems. Telling our fans to park in the Longs Drugs parking lot and walk down the Mall to find the venue proved to be the kiss of death and no one came. Several times.

Add to that Kendall Simsarian of the Milano telling me that opening the Mall to cars would improve his foot traffic and I was on the side of the Tear-it-out argument.

Now, I'm not so sure about spending all that money to tear it out when our city budget is so freakin' tight. Also, the parking tickets were my own fault as well as the low turnout to my gigs. And there's plenty of shops that have gone out of business downtown that have roads in front of them.

I still feel no affection for the Mall, I think it's the last place anyone would want to go to open a business. But, to go to all the expense and trouble to tear it out doesn't seem right either. The compromise of a small, meandering road around all the art and fountains might be a way to go. But, if they just put it on the back burner that would be ok, too.

Bill analyzed the issue as well: http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/10/12/2574860/best-choice-for-fulton-mall-...


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Famous Whitewater on 10-13-2011 @ 10:42:56

We really can't put it on the back burner. Even if the actual work doesn't begin for years, the fate of the mall is being decided now. Let's not continue to pander to cars.


fresnoise's picture
fresnoise on 10-14-2011 @ 10:12:38

They're in charge and they're gonna do what they wanna do. Either way it's not the end of the world. I'd rather ride my bike than take the car whenever I can. But, until we have something as useful as the New York Subway system or the Trolley Cars of the 1930s Fresno Traction Co. we're stuck with the cars.

http://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?marker=27830
http://historical.fresnobeehive.com/2010/05/fresno-street-cars/


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jdeyoung on 10-13-2011 @ 09:09:22

In the US, only 2% of walking malls succeeded. I think everyone would agree that the Fulton Mall's vision/mission has failed. The envisioned hub of our city is empty and 99% of our city does not use it. Leaving it in it's current state would perpetuate its state and that would simply be disappointing.


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Famous Whitewater on 10-13-2011 @ 10:46:30

Agreed. But one could argue the cause of that failure. I would say that it's more than the fact that's it's a walking mall. Reopening the mall to traffic would do little to mitigate those other causes and would take away a piece of Fresno's downtown heritage. Haven't we had enough of that?


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wiffle on 10-13-2011 @ 11:29:25

Best argument right there. Traffic on the Mall would maybe give it some sorta boost at first but in the long term we've spent millions of dollars to destroy another old Fresno landmark for little return. Just maintain it for now and wait to see what happens to the rest of Downtown first.


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jdeyoung on 10-14-2011 @ 15:10:51

In its current state, I would hardly call that a landmark. It is a failure. If a friend from out of town were to come to Fresno, a tour of the Fulton mall would not be on my list of places to stop by. The only way businesses will come back to the mall would be to make it more conducive to business. With a walking mall, you can't even tell where to park because you don't know where any of the stores are. That is not good for business and will perpetuate it's state.


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