Shout it out loud, people! KISS is coming to Fresno.
Question: What is the deal with classic rock? Seriously. Don't get me wrong, I like KISS. I had a poster of "DEMON" (with the boots and all) hanging in my room and I still listen to "Double Platinum," from time to time. And I'll be on the Highway to Hell on Friday. I saw Judas Priest at the Mid State Fair! That's not my point. My point is ... is this stuff still relevant? I mean, a new album? And it's for sale at Wal-Mart? Who are these guys, the Eagles? Jethro Tull? Ozzy? I'll just shake my head and walk away.
Kiss Owns Classic Rock
If it weren't for Kiss and Classic Rock, half of the bands today wouldn't even be around. Yes its still relevant! And as a matter of fact, Kiss is one of the few classic rock bands left that can still tour like this. There's a reason why there still around. We must always pay our respects to the bands that set the precedent for all to follow. http://www.ticketmaster.com/cgi/outsider.plx?CAMEFROM=AEGLIVE_TKISSBOS10...
Classic Rock--warm fuzzy memories for some.
Classic Rock---the listeners.
I always figured there were two types of listeners: music fans and the people who love the music they grew up with.
Certainly the two groups overlap here and there...but that's how I see it.
You go to your high school reunion and the people just get all excited about the songs that were the 'soundtrack to their lives'---and, if they have a personal music collection...it probably consists, largely, of this stuff from their late teen/early 20s years.
Music fans might love the music of their youth, but they also might be passionate for music that happened 20 years before, or 200 years before, or the music they just got turned onto 20 minutes ago.
Some of the bands I like fall exactly into the 'classic rock' format, but I often will have to press 'skip' on the songs that have been run into the ground after 20 or 30 years of heavy rotation on classic rock radio.
Tired Classic Rock Radio
Classic rock---Radio.
I remember...20 something years ago(?) when Classic Rock Radio hit the scene. I was excited because current rock radio played new stuff and threw classics in very rarely--to the point where you'd ask your friend the next day 'Did you hear when they played three cuts in a row from 'Dark Side of the Moon' last night?'or better yet, for the 2am listeners "Dude, they played all of side 3 of 'Tales of Topographic Oceans'.
The novelty of "Classic Rock" soon wore off as they played the same songs over and over and over.
20 years later, they're still playing the same songs over and over and over.
I never ever ever need to hear "Layla" again ever.
It's as if all these classic bands only made 2 songs each. The really super "gods of rock" like Led Zeppelin or The Beatles maybe get 3 or 4 in rotation. But no matter how many times a station will brag "we have a playlist of over 60cajillion songs" It's the same 2 songs by the same 15 bands over and over and over.
YECHHHHHH.
p.s. a year or so ago a local station started and bragged it wouldn't be the same ol same ol---WHAT WAS THEIR GRAND OPENING SONG????
LAYLA!!!!! (!*#^$)(*&^!_@*#^(*_*!!!!
same old isht?
Relevance is in the eye of the beholder. Don't go! Someone else will have your seat. It is a business, not a popular election.
To continue
Ed is right in point. Yes, the aforementioned bands must have some sort of relevance, otherwise they wouldn't be touring and definitely not playing the Save Mart Center. I admitted that much.
But, will KISS ever write a song as good as God of Thunder? Or even God Gave Rock and Roll to You? Probably not. Another example: I'm a huge Alice Cooper fan, but was left totally flat by his latest Along Came a Spider. He still puts on one of (if not the) best shows I've ever seen and I would see it again in an instant. But is his music still relevant? Sad to say, I dunno.
On the flip side of this is a band like Iron Maiden, who I would argue manage to remain relevant in the context of what they do.
hmm, let's discuss
relevance is a very good scale to use in both music and art. if you don't think so you're missing the boat. how we define relevance is very subjective though. selling a lot of tickets (or albums) definitely means that you are relevant to a portion of society. however, tickets sales may not measure the musically relevant to the style of the day, which is where i'm assuming famous whitewater's questions of relevance stem from.
in fact, your own response contradicts itself by saying how these acts are relevant and then says we should use that measure.
The headline is super correct...
Fresno is a classic rock town. All that stuff usually goes over very well. I think it's telling that they never had to do a sale on AC/DC tickets. I've heard of other markets doing discounts -- them being all one price and everything.
KISS will probably do well too. I went last time they were here, with Aerosmith, and it was feverish in the Save Mart Center. Granted, the place was only a month old, so that brought some additional excitement. But still ...
WELL.......
Where to start....
'RELEVANCE'----Yes, KISS, AC/DC and the other bands you mentioned are 'relevant' since they can pack arenas and stadiums at 100.00 a pop.
Who would you like to see live? There are no 'current' acts out there that match the stage presentations as these 'older' acts do.
30 years from now nobody will be clamoring to see a T-PAIN FAREWELL TOUR. This I can assure you.
WAL-MART is only the world's largest retailer...so sorry these bands are pigeonholed into wanting to make MONEY...No matter how much they have...they always want more. If record stores were still 'relevant' you'd probably be angry that they sold it to a mass market chain, like Tower Records was, vs. shipping it to an independent place.
So sorry that KISS has been around since 1973 and still puts out the best ROCK SHOW ON THE PLANET.
Relevant in music and the arts is not a relevant word to use.
same old isht
maybe i'm a hater but i'm not going to see kiss. or ac/dc/. or the eagles. or the stones. i like songs from some of these bands, but in general it's just tired.
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