Hydrogen fuel from vinegar and cellulose
Submitted by onomuse on Wed, 11/21/2007 - 00:08.
Check this out!
http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn12909-hydrogen-brewing-gets...
We could power everything around here on Ag waste. Who knows? Something like "Mr Fusion" might actually happen (without the fusion, of course!).
No ethanol needed when vinegar and bacteria are more efficient.
Because Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe there have to be insanely cheap ways to make it. This appears to be one of them. Let the bacteria do the heavy lifting.
No need to wait for fuel cells either. Both Ford and BMW have hydrogen powered internal combustion engines already.
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Juice from Poop!
We've got millions of tons of this stuff.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_bi_ge/farm_scene_waste_as_fuel...
Check it Out
http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/online/news/articles/2008-04/Chemists-revea...
wow. we can grow lots of sugar and cellulose is next!
Alright!
Sunlight plus bacteria equals hydrogen...
wow.
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8317.html
E coli engineered to produce hydrogen. I guess it had to happen. I wonder how they respond to electricity.
http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/online/news/articles/2008-01/E--coli-advoca...
First the Super Soaker... then this?
Wow. people are amazingly inventive.
http://www.physorg.com/news119107136.html
applause!
Arizona State too
This is farming bacteria for electricity. They'll eat anything!
http://physorg.com/news118589790.html
Then there's this!
Anybody read the Bee today?
http://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/story/245634.html
Then there's this! Don't we have a local power authority?
http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn13000-electric-cars-could-a...
Real High School science experiment
I thought I was joking around.
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8188.html
residential fuel cells
I haven't heard of any American companies planning anything like this.
http://www.abcmoney.co.uk/news/262007171706.htm
This is a waste of tax dollars.
http://www.physorg.com/news114866922.html
DOE is spending 2.4 million to research hydrogen production using nuclear power. That sounds expensive compared to bacteria, vinegar and a little electricity.
At least both research teams are at Penn State. I hope they do some comparisons.
I know that the Penn State team investigating the microbial electrolysis cell is trying to patent the process and I think they should get all the credit and royalties due them. But can't this discovery be exploited almost immediately.
This is junior high school science with a twist. This should be easy.
We just need fuel cells to feed the hydrogen into and you have a green power plant.
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8142.html
Bank Penn States' share and settle up later.
Any crazy rich folk out there?
We could be the Green Energy Valley.
Some refinement required
Crude oil and all synthetic oil will be more valuable in the future as raw materials for plastic than gasoline. We may get to the point where we will be mining our landfills for plastics.
The people of the 21st century need to walk away from hydrocarbons as fuel in the same way people of the 20th century walked away from whale oil and horses.
The current oil/coal/nuclear based energy business structure will not survive. None of the whale oil companies did. They are doing and have done everything they could to maintain their business, of course.
Burning = oxidation
water = hydrogen dioxide
Thermal depolymerization
here is another type of 'Mr.Fusion'
Thermal depolymerization (TDP) is a process for the reduction of complex organic materials (usually waste products of various sorts, often known as biomass and plastic) into light crude oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization
Here you go.
Hydrogen Internal Combustion engines:
Ford
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_display.cfm?release=18794
BMW
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/bmw_and_total_p.html
BMW with Jay Leno:
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage7903.html
Mazda
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8020a.html
More Hydrogen generation ideas:
http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn12946-cheap-hydrogen-power-...
or
http://www.physorg.com/news114172068.html
or Hydrogen Storage:
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage8074.html
or Fuel Cell materials:
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage7903.html
This is one of my favorites! the true end of parallel parking!
http://www.saturnfans.com/Cars/Future/motorinwheels.shtml
http://www.caddybug-usa.com/catalog/hub_motors.php
http://www.greencar.com/features/hubofpower/
How much ag waste do we create each year?
How much energy (money!) does it represent if we had these technologies developed locally.
Please expand
Could you post links about the Ford and BMW hydrogen projects?
Has anyone heard what Gene (http://www.h2ohydrogene.com) is up to these days?
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