Submitted by thatguy (not verified) on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 11:02
here here to cookie cutter anti-everything posters. what "urban" cafe has there ever been in fresno? Get over it. Your just a big fish in a small pond I guess.
The best coffee house in town for me used to be Muggsy's . There was a guy in there who made this drink called the iced snickers. It was really good. Then Starbucks came. Sad Story but this is America...
The same drink can be ordered at Starbucks but it takes like 30 sec to tell them exactly how to make it.
I would have to say the folks at Shaw and 41 always do a good job. Dont go to blackstone and barstow, they are retarded. The people at tower are nice and friendly.
Starbucks also gives people:
fun, decent paying jobs with flexible hours and benefits.
BENEFITS.
Other local Bev spots that are the shizz:
TEAZER!
Dutch Brothers corporate yummy
Revue
Planet Java (terri is awesome)
The Grind
Submitted by Tommy_Tower on Fri, 10/12/2007 - 15:50
Hey Out of the Void, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but International Harvester is still around. They've gone through some name changes. They used to be called Navistar (maybe that's still their registered name), but you probably know them as International Truck & Engine. They make almost every school bus you see and a lot of the semi-trucks.
Submitted by Daddy Spleece on Thu, 06/21/2007 - 16:04
We've just received word that Starbucks and Ethiopia have finalized an agreement that ends their trademark dispute and brings both sides together in partnership to help Ethiopian farmers. This agreement has the potential to give these farmers a fair share of the profits for their world-renowned coffees, and it's what Oxfam has been pushing for since November.
More than 96,000 of our supporters around the world helped make this happen. Your emails, faxes, phone calls, postcards, and even in-person visits to Starbucks added strength to the call of Ethiopian farmers and brought global attention to this issue.
While we're all celebrating this important victory, our work is far from over. We will continue to raise awareness about issues of poverty, hunger, and injustice around the world. We are creating a force for change, and you are a critical partner in our work.
There are many issues we're going to need your help with in the coming months and years, and the more people who are with us, the greater our ability to affect change.
On behalf of Oxfam, and all of the Ethiopian farmers we work with every day, I want to thank you again for being a part of this important victory.
Submitted by Jonreadsbooks on Thu, 06/21/2007 - 15:37
Starbucks isn't putting mom and pop's out of business, the people of fresno are. There are cities that say "No" to corporations and try to keep small businesses alive. There are tons of cafe's in other towns that give starbucks a run for it's money and keep it on its toes. Fresno isn't one. People here really like all things shiny and new and consistent and corporate. So just steer clear of North Fresno and help keep places like java wava and the Revue alive. Starbucks really doesn't care about your whining anyway because it's too busy stuffing hundred dollar bills in its ears. boo hoo. P.S. the tower store serves the worst cup of coffee you can get from a starbucks most of the time. trust me.
Submitted by jeffatmovies on Wed, 03/07/2007 - 01:49
A chain that doesn't act like a chain?
Wow, what a concept. I feel better already.
The $tarbucks website tells me I have 47 stores to select from within 20 miles. I love having the freedom of choice of so many places where I can get candy coffee or hopefully a good cappuccino, perhaps nurture a relationship with a barista. You know, the personal touch.
I don't know which one to pick for this contest, tho. I guess the one that leaves the most $$$$ in my community.
Oh wait, statistically my FRIENDS & my NEIGHBORS who run coffee houses leave the most $$$$ in the community and my neighborhood.
A few years back the people of the Tower District came out and stopped the building of a $tarbucks in the (ugh) Blockbu$ter parking lot. That's my favorite $tarbucks in Fresno.
Submitted by Legal Alien on Tue, 03/06/2007 - 17:33
is the one in Tower. Really it isn't the products they sell, but the people that sell them to you. At some of the *$ some of the people on the other side of the counter actually do know things about coffee. That's pretty cool.
I didn't mean to come off the wrong way on that last post, just can't wait to stand tall for FRESNO.
Diablo
Submitted by Legal Alien on Tue, 03/06/2007 - 16:11
I'll be prepared to swing.
*$, I want to be across the street from them, next door, I don't care. When you provide superior product on all fronts you set yourself apart.
*$ presence and success only proves there is a demand. I can stand behind my product.
Anyone ever wonder what kind of beans the espresso is made of? Or, what kind of beans they use for French Roast? Trust me, there are reasons you don't know. I don't care about that though, I care that I know, and you will know too when I get my shop.
I intend to not worry about *$, they will have to worry about me.
Just because it is a chain doesn't mean it (always) acts like one.
Painting with a broad brush serves noone. And while too many of the local Starbucks adhere too closely to corp policy and serve the local community nothing that doesn't get 'em a ding on the register (grumbleTowergrumblegoodcoffeethough) there are others who do a nice job of letting those of us who ask put out our flyers or what not...the little things that keep our arts/culture word of mouth going.
And while its damaging to the local corner shop when a Starbucks opens down the street, that's capitalism for ya. And most of the corner shops that have a captive audience keep it. Starbucks just brings in all the others who float with the breeze.
Use a smaller brush, helps get in the cracks a little better and fill the holes. That roller just makes a mess.
this is a joke, right? something mcclatchy put on here to see if they could get a response. something to bring this down to the level of their lame people's choice awards. something they could get a laugh over later on. right? oh shit,it's not is it. Favorite star... hey, just do yourself a favor and go to kern street coffee. what's next, your favorite Target store or your favorite albertsons?
Submitted by jeffatmovies on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 18:13
#1, Javawava (only place in town EVER that asked if I like my cappuccino dry).
#2. Indigo
#..............................................................................
#4836. Texaco urn
#4837. $tarbucks
Submitted by CalParadise on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 13:42
Here Here to cookie-cutter coffee shops which try to recreate an intimate atmosphere typical of urban cafes. Like Out of the Void, I also like the fact that these chains can take down locally owned businesses like Koffeheads.
Ever hear of the Tucker??? (really cool car, way ahead of it's time, great movie with Jeff Bridges...)
---Lots of technology that was later incorperated into cars some 40 years later.... ----but the Big Three Ford, Chevy, Chrysler, basically plowed the company under...
---How about American Motors? Studebaker? International Harvester???
If you drive anything but some weird exotic Car, Truck, Motorcycle, or Bicycle, (heck... if you wear shoes that are anything but hand made by your neighbor 'Louie,'?)
---you are in some twisted sick way: Furthering the growth of big business and the death of the smaller one... (who made your socks and underwear??? How about the table you're at right now??? Your cosmetics??? --the gas you put in your vehicle??? (the celophane around your 'textured protein,' sandwich????)
I'm all for the little guy doing great stuff and maintaining their clients and earning an honest buck... (I'm one of them myself.)
----but Am I going to go postal over people liking IKEA??? (I may sqwawk a little,,, but really, it's sensless... people want something cool to put in their house, and I can't compete... It's not closing me down, There's enough for everybody, and the plain fact of it is... Competition and Monopoly in business is simply a way of life... If you really go meshugga with this, you're going to walk around naked, starving, with noplace that you can go to do anything... ---because somebody somewhere got beat out by somebody bigger...
There's a new Starbucks right up the block from me,
(First and Shaw.)
--and everytime I go past there? Lots of students studying, people getting conducting job interviews, dates happening, reasonable munchies going down, good music being promo'd, and the coffee ain't bad... (They also provided jobs where there was once a vacant parking lot...)
(it's expensive, yeah... but buying coffee is basically buying water brewed through ground beans... the actual price (even when you make it home,) is pennies per cup...
-So you're paying for the experience of it all...
(...and that, my friend, is the difference between living and simply existing MOST of the time...)
My Fav. Starbucks???
Shaw at First (by Ross,)
---as well as:
-the one across from the Lysle Center headed towards Clovis, (on Shaw...)
Great staff, nice atmosphere
----and they were SO stoked about handing out Rogue Festival Booklets, (felt it was important to not only clue people in to the shows and festival, ----but wanted to go themselves...)
When you look at it? you can view everything as an evil, a necessary evil, or an opportunity to further good... (and it's the same shovel just from a different viewpoint.)
I always like the one in Tower district....seems less corporatey..e.e..than the others..and the service is nice, and they let me play my violin out in the pation without bugging me....good times
Tower bites big time.
The place is dirty. The bathroom is all tagged down. The bums sit around drinking free ice water all afternoon. Is it a Starbuck's or a halfway house?
Lame question, but Tower all the way.
here here to cookie cutter anti-everything posters. what "urban" cafe has there ever been in fresno? Get over it. Your just a big fish in a small pond I guess.
The best coffee house in town for me used to be Muggsy's . There was a guy in there who made this drink called the iced snickers. It was really good. Then Starbucks came. Sad Story but this is America...
The same drink can be ordered at Starbucks but it takes like 30 sec to tell them exactly how to make it.
I didn't know such a thing as the "Best Starbucks" existed
Thats all.
hmm
I would have to say the folks at Shaw and 41 always do a good job. Dont go to blackstone and barstow, they are retarded. The people at tower are nice and friendly.
Starbucks also gives people:
fun, decent paying jobs with flexible hours and benefits.
BENEFITS.
Other local Bev spots that are the shizz:
TEAZER!
Dutch Brothers corporate yummy
Revue
Planet Java (terri is awesome)
The Grind
That is all.
Mixed babies make the world smile
Hey Out of the Void, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but International Harvester is still around. They've gone through some name changes. They used to be called Navistar (maybe that's still their registered name), but you probably know them as International Truck & Engine. They make almost every school bus you see and a lot of the semi-trucks.
TOWER BABY!! I love those guys!!
Eh
I haven't stepped in to a Starbucks since I found out they're owned by Marlboro.
Thankfully, better coffee abounds.
Time to exploit yet another country...
We've just received word that Starbucks and Ethiopia have finalized an agreement that ends their trademark dispute and brings both sides together in partnership to help Ethiopian farmers. This agreement has the potential to give these farmers a fair share of the profits for their world-renowned coffees, and it's what Oxfam has been pushing for since November.
More than 96,000 of our supporters around the world helped make this happen. Your emails, faxes, phone calls, postcards, and even in-person visits to Starbucks added strength to the call of Ethiopian farmers and brought global attention to this issue.
While we're all celebrating this important victory, our work is far from over. We will continue to raise awareness about issues of poverty, hunger, and injustice around the world. We are creating a force for change, and you are a critical partner in our work.
There are many issues we're going to need your help with in the coming months and years, and the more people who are with us, the greater our ability to affect change.
On behalf of Oxfam, and all of the Ethiopian farmers we work with every day, I want to thank you again for being a part of this important victory.
Tim Fullerton
Oxfam America
-s
Wah wah wahhh!
Starbucks isn't putting mom and pop's out of business, the people of fresno are. There are cities that say "No" to corporations and try to keep small businesses alive. There are tons of cafe's in other towns that give starbucks a run for it's money and keep it on its toes. Fresno isn't one. People here really like all things shiny and new and consistent and corporate. So just steer clear of North Fresno and help keep places like java wava and the Revue alive. Starbucks really doesn't care about your whining anyway because it's too busy stuffing hundred dollar bills in its ears. boo hoo. P.S. the tower store serves the worst cup of coffee you can get from a starbucks most of the time. trust me.
STARBUCKS?
Best Starbucks= Oxymoron.
Weak Links
A chain that doesn't act like a chain?
Wow, what a concept. I feel better already.
The $tarbucks website tells me I have 47 stores to select from within 20 miles. I love having the freedom of choice of so many places where I can get candy coffee or hopefully a good cappuccino, perhaps nurture a relationship with a barista. You know, the personal touch.
I don't know which one to pick for this contest, tho. I guess the one that leaves the most $$$$ in my community.
Oh wait, statistically my FRIENDS & my NEIGHBORS who run coffee houses leave the most $$$$ in the community and my neighborhood.
A few years back the people of the Tower District came out and stopped the building of a $tarbucks in the (ugh) Blockbu$ter parking lot. That's my favorite $tarbucks in Fresno.
The more direct answer
is the one in Tower. Really it isn't the products they sell, but the people that sell them to you. At some of the *$ some of the people on the other side of the counter actually do know things about coffee. That's pretty cool.
I didn't mean to come off the wrong way on that last post, just can't wait to stand tall for FRESNO.
Diablo
When I step in the ring
I'll be prepared to swing.
*$, I want to be across the street from them, next door, I don't care. When you provide superior product on all fronts you set yourself apart.
*$ presence and success only proves there is a demand. I can stand behind my product.
Anyone ever wonder what kind of beans the espresso is made of? Or, what kind of beans they use for French Roast? Trust me, there are reasons you don't know. I don't care about that though, I care that I know, and you will know too when I get my shop.
I intend to not worry about *$, they will have to worry about me.
Diablo
Come on indeed
Just because it is a chain doesn't mean it (always) acts like one.
Painting with a broad brush serves noone. And while too many of the local Starbucks adhere too closely to corp policy and serve the local community nothing that doesn't get 'em a ding on the register (grumbleTowergrumblegoodcoffeethough) there are others who do a nice job of letting those of us who ask put out our flyers or what not...the little things that keep our arts/culture word of mouth going.
And while its damaging to the local corner shop when a Starbucks opens down the street, that's capitalism for ya. And most of the corner shops that have a captive audience keep it. Starbucks just brings in all the others who float with the breeze.
Use a smaller brush, helps get in the cracks a little better and fill the holes. That roller just makes a mess.
4837 redux
Hey Jeff, I think you have $tarbucks ranked way too high, and btw did you leave out the i and the e from the Texaco urn ranking?
Exactly starbucks
this is a joke, right? something mcclatchy put on here to see if they could get a response. something to bring this down to the level of their lame people's choice awards. something they could get a laugh over later on. right? oh shit,it's not is it. Favorite star... hey, just do yourself a favor and go to kern street coffee. what's next, your favorite Target store or your favorite albertsons?
4837
#1, Javawava (only place in town EVER that asked if I like my cappuccino dry).
#2. Indigo
#..............................................................................
#4836. Texaco urn
#4837. $tarbucks
Come on
Here Here to cookie-cutter coffee shops which try to recreate an intimate atmosphere typical of urban cafes. Like Out of the Void, I also like the fact that these chains can take down locally owned businesses like Koffeheads.
its sorta liiiiiike...
Ever hear of the Tucker??? (really cool car, way ahead of it's time, great movie with Jeff Bridges...)
---Lots of technology that was later incorperated into cars some 40 years later.... ----but the Big Three Ford, Chevy, Chrysler, basically plowed the company under...
---How about American Motors? Studebaker? International Harvester???
If you drive anything but some weird exotic Car, Truck, Motorcycle, or Bicycle, (heck... if you wear shoes that are anything but hand made by your neighbor 'Louie,'?)
---you are in some twisted sick way: Furthering the growth of big business and the death of the smaller one... (who made your socks and underwear??? How about the table you're at right now??? Your cosmetics??? --the gas you put in your vehicle??? (the celophane around your 'textured protein,' sandwich????)
I'm all for the little guy doing great stuff and maintaining their clients and earning an honest buck... (I'm one of them myself.)
----but Am I going to go postal over people liking IKEA??? (I may sqwawk a little,,, but really, it's sensless... people want something cool to put in their house, and I can't compete... It's not closing me down, There's enough for everybody, and the plain fact of it is... Competition and Monopoly in business is simply a way of life... If you really go meshugga with this, you're going to walk around naked, starving, with noplace that you can go to do anything... ---because somebody somewhere got beat out by somebody bigger...
There's a new Starbucks right up the block from me,
(First and Shaw.)
--and everytime I go past there? Lots of students studying, people getting conducting job interviews, dates happening, reasonable munchies going down, good music being promo'd, and the coffee ain't bad... (They also provided jobs where there was once a vacant parking lot...)
(it's expensive, yeah... but buying coffee is basically buying water brewed through ground beans... the actual price (even when you make it home,) is pennies per cup...
-So you're paying for the experience of it all...
(...and that, my friend, is the difference between living and simply existing MOST of the time...)
My Fav. Starbucks???
Shaw at First (by Ross,)
---as well as:
-the one across from the Lysle Center headed towards Clovis, (on Shaw...)
Great staff, nice atmosphere
----and they were SO stoked about handing out Rogue Festival Booklets, (felt it was important to not only clue people in to the shows and festival, ----but wanted to go themselves...)
When you look at it? you can view everything as an evil, a necessary evil, or an opportunity to further good... (and it's the same shovel just from a different viewpoint.)
But...
Isn't Starbucks so much a part of our lives by now that its accepted, not reviled...you know, since reviling won't do anything about it?
That plus it's yummy. If it's yummy, does that not in part make up for corporate greed?
Exactly...
Someone hit the delete button on this question.
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This is an example of how lame the people in Fresno really are.
Tower
I've tried to post this 3 times now, but Tower. Ashlan/Cedar is a close 2nd.
I don't drink coffee...
but I like the one at the mall, because my friend Tracy works there.
tower
I always like the one in Tower district....seems less corporatey..e.e..than the others..and the service is nice, and they let me play my violin out in the pation without bugging me....good times
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